Bewerbung Frankfurt School

Squ... 31.05.15 15:09

Hallo zusammen,

derzeit bewerbe ich mich um einen Studienplatz an der Frankfurt School für den Studiengang Banking and Finance.
Hättet ihr eine Anregung, wie ich das Motivationsschreiben auf das Stipendiumsprogramm verfassen könnte?

Mit bestem Gruß,
Oliver

  1. Squeaker 1 01.06.15 17:36

    Offtopic:
    Bin zur Zeit auf der FS und ich muss zugeben man hat das Gefühl, dass jeder angenommen wird.
    Ich würde dir empfehlen die FS nur als Plan B zu haben (dass die FS besser für eine Karriere in der Finanzindustrie ist, stimmt auch nicht)
    Wenn du auf eine private Institution gehen möchtest würde ich dir die WHU empfehlen, die auch für Karrieren in Banking besser geeignet ist als die FS. Öffentliche Unis wie die Uni Mannheim oder LMU sind aber auch super (ich persönlich wäre auf die Uni Mannheim, wenn ich nochmal die Wahl hätte.) In Vorstellungsgesprächen kommt auch die Frage immer auf warum FS? Da tu ich mich auch schwer zu sagen dass die FS ein super Programm usw anbietet.

    Warum?:
    Die Qualität der Studenten auf der FS ist sehr niedrig, dementsprechend auch deine "Lernkurve". Beim Studium solltest du möglichst viel lernen und es geht nicht um einen "Titel" zu erlangen. Letztendlich ist es egal ob du auf der FS oder Mannheim warst wenn du das Fachwissen für den Job hast. Dein persönliche Entwicklung hängt auch mit der Entwicklung in der Gruppe zusammen (auf der WHU wächst man als Gruppe schnell, auf der Uni Mannheim entwickelst du dich als Einzelperson sehr schnell, auf der FS wird zum Teil deine Entwicklung eingeschränkt wenn alles nur langsam und auf niedrigerem Niveau stattfindet)
    Ich empfehle dir auf der FS vorbeizuschauen und 10 Leute anzusprechen (von 8 wirst du dir denken, dass du doch nicht auf die FS willst)
    Viele sind hier nach dem großen Geld aus und erzählen, dass sie ins M&A wollen obwohl sie nichtmal wissen was ein DCF Model ist. (außerdem habe ich in den letzten Jahren weniger als 5 Studenten pro Jahrgang gesehen, die ein Praktikum bei bb oder einer Tier1 UB absolviert haben)

    Jetzt zu deiner Frage:
    Man ist nie auf der falsch wenn du gut darstellst, dass du sehr zielstrebig und leistungsbereit bist. (Studium auch zielstrebig angehst und absolvierst) Als Student bist du auch ein "Vertreter der Uni" und solltest egal ob bei Praktika oder Berufseinstieg einen guten Eindruck hinterlassen. Dementsprechend würde ich definitiv deine Stärken hervorheben. Ich persönlich nenne auch eine meiner Schwächen mit einer Erläuterung, wie ich diese aber zu einer Stärke umwandle oder gezielt dagegen arbeite. Jeder hat Schwächen (es kann offensichtliche sein aber auch deine Einstellung, nie entspannen zu können und ein Workaholic zu sein könnte eine Schwäche darstellen).
    Insgesamt also erzählen warum du eine Persönlichkeit bist, die das Studium erfolgreich angehen wird aber auch als Absolvent die FS positiv gestaltest.

    Zum Stipendium:
    Ich hatte damals mich nicht auf das Stipendium beworben, sondern man bekommt es angeboten wenn man bei der Bewerbung und dem AC überzeugt (Die besten zwei haben jeweils ein Stipendium bekommen.) Es kann jedoch sein, dass es jetzt anders ist

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  2. Squ... 02.06.15 12:20

    Vielen Dank für deine Rückmeldung.
    Ich würde mich über eine persönliche Nachricht deinerseits freuen.

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  3. Squ... 03.06.15 10:48

    Dear Oliver,
    I am Elio Narducci, a student of Frankfurt School currently attending the Master in Management. I would like to start by saying that I am not afraid of posting my comments with my name on it. I say this after having read the anonymous answer above.
    I joined Frankfurt School 2 years ago after having graduated from Bocconi University. Obviously I do NOT agree at all with the comments that have been written regarding Frankfurt School. First of all there are rigorous assessment centers to go through in order to be accepted into the study programs. Apart from checking the academic background the students are accepted only if they pass a logical/mathematical exam (or they present the results of the GMAT, like I did) and they also have a personal interview with the programs' directors. Frankfurt School aims at becoming one of the best business schools in Europe and obviously the strategy to achieve this result is to educate the best and most talented students.
    When I was looking for the University in Germany where I would have liked to do my Masters, Frankfurt School was the one that convinced me the most. The amount of research done by the university was for me a signal of high educational quality, also proved by the accreditations that the school now has (EQUIS, AACSB, etc.), the employer contacts and the services that the FS was offering, the possibility of working while studying with a flexible study program and nonetheless the fact that the FS is located in Frankfurt, one of the most important Financial-hubs of Europe. My expectations were always met. In FS I met hard working students who were able to get jobs/internships with the top employers. The FS in the next 2/3 years will move to a new, bigger campus in Frankfurt, signaling that the University is investing and growing.
    As I have understood you are interested in the field of Banking/Finance which is for sure one of the expertise of FS. The FS has half of the students studying the topics related to Finance and the other half studying Management related subjects (same applies for the number of professors). I find this diversity very important inside the university because it leads to exchange of ideas among students from different perspectives.
    As to your question. I cannot help you regarding the motivation letter for the scholarships because I didn't have to write one. For sure I would emphasize on your strengths and the reasons why you want to apply for Frankfurt School and to the specific study program. If you would like, you can write to me and I will provide you with contacts of the students I know that wrote the motivation letter.
    I am always available in case you have any question.

    All the best and good luck for the application!

    Elio Narducci
    Master in Management

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  4. Squeaker 1 03.06.15 17:04

    Hi Oliver, Hi Elio

    I respect your opinion towards the Master in Management but this is exactly what I am talking about.
    Judging me about posting anonymously demonstrates pretty well how some FS students are intolerant about other peoples opinion, confirming my decision to post anonymously. This forum is to help other students and not for the purpose of a discussions between us. Sure I said there are better options (which is my personal opinion). But I also mentioned to apply to FS as a plan B option. Undoubtedly, Bocconi is a great school and there are students who are feeling like you about FS after graduating at a prestigious school such as Bocconi. On the other hand, after finishing gradschool, you should be mature enough to respect that other might have a different opinion or even accept the empirical evidence that some schools offer a better program. Also, as you said yourself you turned in a GMAT so you actually didn't experienced an AC yourself. Just telling about experiences of other students or what the school expects you to say (in general, i think your opinion is biased since you have been in the student council and have a more representing position for FS than I do)

    So now back to the topic:
    Elio's opinion is solely relying on his experience with Master in Management (here, my opinion is that there are much better schools such as WHU or Uni Mannheim for a Master in Management as well).
    Since the student is interested in the Bachelor program, the structure of your studies cannot be compared anyways.
    Doing a MBA at Harvard is definitely different than a Bachelor degree in Art History in Harvard (just an example)
    I heard myself that the Master degree structures are better and that you get a better supervision and support.

    Just regarding at Bachelor admission, I have to repeat that the FS Bachelor is not bad but there are definitely better ones. This is my opinion as stated above but many will agree to me.
    First, if you are a high potential anyways, you will do just fine at a public school as well for landing prestigious internships and full time placements. In terms of private schools, there are FS WHU EBS ESB and many more. Just comparing the FS and WHU, I observed a higher quality of students, not only in class but also in terms of social life (empirical evidence: there are much more scholarship holders of the thirteen "Förderwerke" than at FS)
    Overall the support to land a intern position at a bb bank or consulting is higher (if you play with the thought of joining an investment bank or tier1 consulting firm, you definitely should experience an internship before making the final decision)

    If you are considering a BIS/AIS program with a part time employment? Sure FS is the BEST school in Germany! Its location in Frankfurt makes it unique (coming back to Elios argument)
    But if you plan on doing a full time position, WHU's Bachelor program offers an overall better deal. Of course it might be difficult or impossible to experience a parttime position as a "Werkstudent" but honestly, after working several months as a Werkstudent, my experience is that the marginal benefit is very small. (Its different for the "Duales Studium")
    There, you are better off to have one or even two internships every summer with the help of the WHU career service. Of course, the FS has a great career service as well but WHU has landed much more interns into the tier1 companies.

    if you have any questions Oliver, feel free to comment here.
    In case, you have questions which you do not want to ask in public, you can comment that as well then I will contact you

    Best wishes

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  5. Squ... 05.06.15 02:04

    Dear Anonym,
    the temptation not to answer has been my first reaction after reading your answer but, if you don't mind, there are a couple of points that I would like to clarify.
    First of all I agree with you, this forum should let the interested students getting opinions about the study programs, not to argue among us. That is exactly the reason why I just said I do not agree with your analysis without being disrespectful to you. I argued your points with hard facts and talking about things I know for sure, letting my suppositions away. As I can understand you are a student of FS who has not attended other institutions. Yet your conclusion is that other places are better. What I believe is that if you stand by your opinions you should not be afraid of taking a face to face confrontation.
    Keeping on the topic of credibility, I have to strongly argue against your statement that my opinion is biased. Since I have been elected by the students body representative of all of the students, I have been exposed to a pull of information and facts that entitles me to have a pretty good overview of what FS is offering. My personal pride prevents me to let other people influence my believes and opinions.
    As always done as Head of the StuCo, I am always open to others opinions and criticisms. This is the reason why I am kindly inviting you to get directly in contact with me to discuss in person what you believe can be done better in FS so that the process becomes constructive and the FS could be finally officially informed/suggested.

    Oliver, I am sure, will make a wise choice. He has been put in contact with people who can answer to his questions given that they have experienced already the things he is asking about.

    Generally speaking, in every situation there is something that can be ameliorated but it is only by taking responsibility and action that things can go further. FS is a great Business School offering, to my opinion, what is expected by its target groups (students and employers). If I had to choose again, I would still choose Frankfurt School.

    All the best!

    Elio Narducci

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  6. Squ... 03.06.15 18:20

    Thank you very much for answering.
    It would be fine if you could send me a message.

    Best regards

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